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December 24, 2011

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Post Entry Pass and Big Man Touch Study — Duke vs Presbyterian

Ryan Kelly to Mason PlumleeYou might notice a slight change in the title of this post from the previous one regarding this study. Based on feedback I received from the charting of Duke’s first game against Belmont, many readers wanted to see not just who was making and receiving post entry passes, but also how many times Duke’s bigs received the ball within the flow of the offense.

Statistically, there is really only one measure that can be calculated that can even come close to figuring out how much a player is used on the offensive end. However, that stat (usage % is somewhat limited.) Let’s look at the formula and I’ll explain why it is limited and why the only way to truly calculate how many times a player is “used” on a team is to go back and review the tape.

Usage % (or Rate) Formula: 100 * ((FGA + 0.44 * FTA +TOV) * (Tm MP / 5)) / (MP * (Tm FGA + 0.44 * Tm FTA + Tm TOV))

If that doesn’t make sense to you, don’t worry. I’m not going to delve to far into the mathematics of it, for simplicity’s sake. What is important is the concepts behind the numbers. According to college basketball stats guru, Ken Pomeroy, he calls Usage Rate “Percentage of Possessions Used.” His description makes sense and brings those numbers into plain English:

Percentage of possessions used (%Poss): A measure of personal possessions used while the player is on the court. Simply assigns credit or blame to a player when his actions end a possession, either by missing a shot that isn’t rebounded by the offense or committing a turnover.

This formula, while the best there is available to people just looking at the box scores, heavily weighs aggressive players who take a lot of shots, commit a lot of turnovers, or make a lot of assists. Since Duke’s possessions often results from multiple passes, players do not get credit for their role within the offense when their actions don’t contribute to the end of that possession.

A big reason why I undertook this project was to see just how much of an impact duke’s big men were having in the offense. As the best available formulas out there are limited, the only way I could truly do this is to look at the tape. The added “Big Man Touch” stat (now known as BMT), will help to do this. Unfortunately, it’s nearly doubled the time it takes for me to record the stats. Bear with me as I wade through the mountains of data.

Let’s look back on the methodology for post-entry passes that I laid out in the Belmont post

  1. I will only count plays where the player caught the ball in the painted area that put the player in a position to make a “scoring move”. If a player caught the ball as he was cutting through the lane, bringing him out to the perimeter, this will not count as a post entry pass.
  2. If a player catches the ball just outside the paint, but then turns to make a post move, I will list it but make a note that the ball was caught somewhere besides the paint.
  3. Most plays will be considered as occurring “Out of half-court set” as Duke has made the post entry pass much more of a part of their offense this year. I sometimes will note how the player presents himself for the pass but not always.
  4. Please provide any suggestions in the comment boxes below as I’m new at this and would love to crowd-source more concepts to examine.

With the added BMT stat, I need to explain where I’m coming from there.

  1. I did not count any of Josh Hairston’s stats, even though when he’s in the offense he plays the power forward role that Mason and Ryan play almost exclusively when they’re in. Just as those two do, he flashes out to the high post or perimeter to catch the first pass in the offensive set. For the purposes of this study, and to limit the amount of time I’m spending on this, I only count Mason, Miles, and Ryan’s touches.
  2. Touches that are the result of rebounds by the player or deflections by the defense are not counted.
  3. I did not count SLOB (SideLine Out of Bounds) plays or BLOB (BaseLine Out of Bounds) plays even though the bigs often receive these passes and a lot of times they result in points for them. Again, this is to reduce the time I spend looking back on the tape.
  4. I also calculated how many points were scored on the possessions where a BMT or PEP (Post Entry Pass) occurred. I thought this was valuable to see if possessions including these events led to more or less points than possessions where they were not part of the offense.
  5. In this table, I have replaced the time of game with the type of pass. I do have this data if anyone is interested, but I don’t think it is as important as I’m including BMTs and therefore there will be less time between events. Because an Entry Pass is also a Big Man Touch, Entry Passes will be noted as Both.

Please continue to let me know what you think can be improved on or what I need to tweak in the comments below.

Big Man Touches and Post Entry Passes for the Presbyterian Game

Type of PassThrown ByCaught ByScenarioResultPoints-BMT-EP
BothSeth Miles Miles posts up on low block, receives entry pass Miles missed 15' jump hook0PTS-1BMT-1EP
BMTSethMason 2nd pass in offense, Mase on perimeterMason entry pass to Miles at the high post 0PTS-2BMT-1EP
BothMasonMilesMiles presents to Mason on high postKick Out To Austin3PTS-2BMT-2EP
BMT SethMiles1st Pass in OffensePass then Screen to Dre4PTS-3BMT-2EP
BMT DreRyanBall Reversal on PerimeterPass to Seth, cut to basket7PTS-5BMT-2EP
BothSethRyanGive and Go w/SethRyan unguarded dunk9PTS-6BMT-3EP
BothSethRyanBehind head pass from SethUp and under layup from Ryan11PTS-7BMT-4EP
BMTTylerRyanPass Around PerimeterRyan Made 3, fouled14PTS-8BMT-4EP
BMTAustinMilesPass Around PerimeterDribble Handoff to Tyler14PTS-9BMT-4EP
Both TylerMilesPosted up just outside paintMiles take to missed reverse layup14PTS-10BMT-5EP
BMTSethRyanCaught outside 3-point line @ top of keyRyan shot fake, lost ball on dribble14PTS-11BMT-5EP
BMTGbinijeMilesCaught outside 3-linePassed around perimeter to Tyler 14PTS-12BMT-5EP
BothTylerMasonMason posts up on low block, receives entry pass Fouled shooting hook 14PTS-13BMT-6EP
Both TylerMason1st Pass in offense, Mason posts up down lowMason Made Hook 16PTS-14BMT-7EP
BMTSethMason1st Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineMason made layup18PTS-15BMT-7EP
BMTSethMason1st Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineAttempted entry pass from Mason 18PTS-16BMT-7EP
Attempt MasonMilesAttempted Entry pass from Mason3 seconds on Miles 18PTS-16BMT-7EP
BMTAustinRyanPass around perimeterPass to Seth18PTS-17BMT-7EP
BMTSethMasonCaught on high postMase stopped on drive, kicked back out to Ryan18PTS-18BMT-7EP
BMTMasonRyanKick outEntry pass to Mason18PTS-19BMT-7EP
BothRyanMasonRyan back to MaseMase made up & under20PTS-20BMT-8EP
BMT SethMason 1st pass in offense, caught outside 3-point linePass to Austin22PTS-21BMT-8EP
BMTQuinnMiles1st Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineMiles made layup And124PTS-22BMT-8EP
BothSethMilesMiles posts up on low block, receives entry passMiles made hook26PTS-23BMT-9EP
BothTylerRyanRyan posts up on low block, receives entry passRyan made layup And129PTS-24BMT-10EP
Both TylerRyanRyan posts up on low block, receives entry passRyan missed shot29PTS-25BMT-11EP
BMTSethMason2nd Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineMason entry pass to Miles 29PTS-26BMT-11EP
BothMasonMilesMiles posts up on low block, receives entry passMiles made hook31PTS-27BMT-12EP
BMTSethMason1st Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineHandoff to Austin on perimeter31PTS-28BMT-12EP
BMTDreMasonCaught outside 3-point lineMason entry pass to Miles31PTS-29BMT-12EP
BothMasonMiles Miles posts up on low block, receives entry passMiles Made Jumper33PTS-30BMT-13EP
BMTSethMason1st Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineMason Missed Spin Hook33PTS-31BMT-13EP
BMTAustinRyanRyan slipped screen set for Austin, showed for ballRyan made jumper 35PTS-32BMT-13EP
BMTSethRyan1st pass in offense Seth finds Ryan down low, not in positionRyan kick out to Dre35PTS-33BMT-13EP
BMTSethRyan 1st Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineRyan Missed Three 35PTS-34BMT-13EP
BothTyler Miles Miles posts up on low block, receives entry passMiles missed spin move into layup35PTS-35BMT-14EP
BothQuinnMilesMiles posts up on low block, receives entry passMiles turnover 35PTS-36BMT-15EP
BothGbinijeMiles Miles slipped screen set for Gbinije, showed for ball Miles dunk37PTS-37BMT-16EP
BMTQuinnRyan1st Pass in Offense, caught outside 3-point lineRyan pass to Gbinije on blocks37PTS-38BMT-16EP
BothGbinijeMasonMason posts up on low block, receives entry passMason kick out to Gbinije37PTS-39BMT-17EP
BothGbinijeRyanGbinije gets kickout from Mase, re-entry pass to ryanRyan missed driving layup37PTS-40BMT-18EP
BMTQuinnRyanIn Offense, caught outside 3-point lineRyan fouled on layup39PTS-41BMT-18EP
BothQuinnMasonMason slipped screen set for Quinn, caught ball on a rim runMason fouled after pump fake39PTS-42BMT-19EP
BothQuinnMilesMiles posts up on low block, receives entry passMiles made jump hook 41PTS-43BMT-20EP

*Note: The last record tabulated (the Miles made jump hook event) occurred with 4:08 left in the game. Because of the blowout, Todd Zafirovski came in late for Ryan Kelly and as I stated above, I am not counting Josh Hairston’s stats for brevity’s sake. There were a number of touches by Hairston over the last four minutes that I simply didn’t count so these numbers should technically be higher.

  • I counted 43 Big Man Touches in this game (one of those listed was an attempt). I think this number will be a little high due to Duke trying to exploit Presbyterian’s lack of size and implement their new offense dedicated to getting the bigs the ball. I won’t know until I get to some more of the games though.
  • Of those 43 BMTs: 20 were Post Entry Passes. This shows a balance between the bigs simply getting touches on the perimeter within the offense and actually getting them looks on the blocks down low.
  • Of the 43 BMTs: 14 were touched by Mason, 14 were touched by Miles, and the most (15) were touched by Ryan. Again, great balance shown here.
  • Of the 20 PEPs: 10 were caught by Miles, 5 were by Mason, and 5 were by Ryan. This is due to Miles playing the true center role most of his time on the court while the other two play a lot more in the high post. Mason and Ryan flash out to the high post often to receive the first pass in the offense.
  • Of the 20 PEPs: Tyler threw 6 of them, 4 by Seth,  3 by Quinn, 3 by Gbinije, 3 by Mason (!), and 1 by Ryan. While Tyler’s offense has been bemoaned by many Duke fans, including Taylor Ostrick who writes here, Tyler got the ball to guys down low more often than any other in this game. Even if that big guy scored points, Tyler wouldn’t necessarily get an assist there unless his past directly led to the basket. Something to keep an eye on.
  • Of Tyler’s 6 PEPs: all 6 led to shots. This is a very high number and shows that not only was Tyler getting the ball down low, the passes led to potential offense. Unfortunately, Miles went 0-2, Mason went 1-2 (but got to line on the one he missed) and Ryan went 1-2 (but got an And1 so he actually got three points out of two attempts.)
  • Of the 20 PEPs: Duke shot 10-13 with two dunks, two drawn fouls, two kick outs, and one turnover. Duke was incredibly efficient on Post-Entry Passes in this game.
  • Of the 23 BMTs that weren’t PEPs: 12 were thrown by Seth, 3 by Austin, 3 by Quinn, 2 by Andre, 1 by Tyler, 1 by Gbinije and 1 by Mason. This is not surprising as Seth initiated the offense much of the time. 10 of these were the first pass thrown in the offense, with 7 of those going through Mason first.
  • Of Seth’s 12 BMT passes that weren’t PEPs: 8 went to Mason, 3 to Ryan, and 1 to Miles. 8 of these were the 1st pass thrown in the offense. 5 of those were to Mason, showing that the offense runs through Mason first 62.5% of the time when Seth initiates the offense and passes to a big man.

Any other conclusions you guys can draw would be very interesting. Please leave them in the comments below.

As I get more games under my belt, I’ll start compiling cumulative stats, but it’s not as important right now.

Merry Christmas and Go Duke!

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